Lion Air crashes again

Lion Air has crashed an airliner for the 6th time in the last 10 years. Already banned in the skies of the USA and Europe the Indonesian low cost carrier continues to add to its substandard accident rate. Initial reporting on the accident are incorrect. It does not appear to be an “overshoot” of the runway; in fact, as the pictures show below, the aircraft never made the runway.

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The aircraft is pointed towards the runway not away from it. Also there are no marks in the over run area and/or grass. Here is a close up.


This closer look shows the perimeter fence is also still intact. Thus it is very unlikely the aircraft did not overshoot the runway (ie run off the end). It landed short of the runway.






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6 comments on “Lion Air crashes again
  1. Apa Kabar says:

    Lion Air is an Indonesian airline, not Malaysian. And yes, it landed short of the runway.

  2. Patrick M says:

    This airline has such a dismal safety record, if I were Boeing and Airbus, I would not count on those mega-orders placed ever coming to full fruition. I just cannot imagine them ever being allowed to continue to expand at the rate they are, at the apparent expense of safety. They will eventually run out of nations that will allow them to land.

  3. Pete B says:

    One of the first things I noticed was no skids/tracks in the grass, or breakage of the fence. Some initial thoughts. Is it possible they just flat ran out of fuel? Any word on Fuel quantity remaining in wings? How about an inadvertent shutting off of the fuel control valves due to poor CRM? How about weather conditions? Sheer present at the time? Heavy rain ingestion to the engines? Lastly, too low and too slow? Flat out stalled it short of the runway perhaps.

    • No word on fuel; there are conflicting reports on wind shear. Something I found unusual in the crews debrief (I will post it) quoted in the press, the Captain took control to execute a missed approach. I do not know if that is normal procedure for Lion Air, and it is always at the discretion of the Captain. However, usually (in my experience) the pilot flying initiates the missed approach.